15 comments on “The Women (1939)

  1. I loved the Women for some of the reasons you seemed to dislike it. I think it is worth noting that the triangles of Mary/Crystal/Husband and Sylvia/Miriam/Husband offer a study in contrast as it were. Thoughts on that?

    • Ooh those are some intriguing points I wish I had thought of. Well where Mary seems to lose Stephen because of her so-called “pride.” Sylvia loses her husband out of annoyance in my opinion. She felt she could control him, and is left to feel how Mary feels although she copes by aligning herself with Crystal. Miriam I think is the other woman who should have been highlighted. She’s no saint, but she’s not a she-devil either. Thanks for giving me something to think about. Sorry our thoughts on the movie didn’t align, hope that doesn’t stop you from coming back!

  2. Absolutely love this movie, but I totally see where your coming from with your reservations. BTW, I cannot tell you what a thrill it is to hear you refer to STAGE DOOR as a community of women! That was my whole English senior thesis!!!! In my article about “Communities of Women,” I mention THE WOMEN, but it is in a different category – this community is more of the “ladies who lunch” variety than the professional women of STAGE DOOR (1937) and DESK SET (1957) who have their work as a unifying factor. THE WOMEN certainly doesn’t pass the Bechdel Test because all they ever talk about is men. Their catiness can be frustrating, but there are a couple really realistic friendships here. The writer woman is also a pretty solid character, though we don’t see much of her. I could write a whole essay about this film, but I won’t do that here! Great review, as usually, Kristen!
    http://thegreatkh.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/communities-of-women-how-hepburn-passes.html

    • Well I can actually say you gave me the idea because I remember reading your article on it a few months back! I just found it weird that a film like Stage Door, where you’d expect women to step on each other’s throats considering their business, isn’t at all catty or heartless like this film. Maybe it’s a class thing?

      • Oh, that makes me so happy! Well, it might be a class thing, but the women in STAGE DOOR are a bit catty, especially in the beginning. It’s a different kind of cattiness, but it’s definitely there. I think the fact that they are professional women who have been marginalized, as a group outside of society, forces them into comaradery. They are also unified by the suicide of one of their own. The community of women in THE WOMEN is primarily voluntary because they are wealthy enough to live where and with whom they please, for the most part. Neither are as good examples of a harmonious female group as DESK SET (1957), which is almost entirely void of cattiness from within the female group.

    • I’ve seen a few memes on the remake and it seems to have traded in wit for sex appeal. Glad to know I’m not lone Grinch who hated this haha.

      • Oh god the remake. I felt the original was more subtle about the fact the entire cast was female while the remake was more in your face about it.

      • I’ve only heard of the remake through reputation. I’m tempted to watch it just to see how horrible…then again I only have so long to live in this world, and I don’t think I should fill it with bad movies lol.

  3. Funnily enough, I agree with many of your points, but The Women is one of my all-time favorite movies. I think that some of the problems you mention (the mismatch of tones among the different segments, the dated material, the fashion show, etc.) make it strangely compelling. One thing I would stress is this (at which you and some of the other comments already hinted): with the exception of Crystal and Miriam, all the characters are upper class women. I read the movie as a biting satire of women who literally have nothing to do but gossip, get their nails done, and watch fashion shows. On top of that, the writing and performances (especially Russell’s) are completely hilarious.

    • Well I figured class definitely plays a part. I like what you said about the upper class women having nothing to do, and thus must delight in others torment. Thanks for reading!!

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  5. Basically, in the remake you’ll see the main characters walk outside, and every single extra is a woman. Also at one point, two characters are talking as the main character is outside supposedly fighting with her husband. Basically the “fight” is just Meg Ryan screaming at nobody offscreen, and you hear a door slam and a car drive off. The movie is so in your face about how there are no male actors that you almost want to scream at the movie, “WHY ISN’T THERE A SINGLE GUY ON SCREEN!?!??!”

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